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Playstation 4 not coming before 2010

The Playstation 3 would have a lifespan of 10 years, that’s what was promised to us a while ago by a bunch of Sony representatives, but it seems that they’re already making different plans. Vice President of Technology for Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Paul Holman is not officially announcing a Playstation 4, but he said that it would be far fetched to say that there will be no PS4 because of a management change

Maybe Sony will use this odd controller for the PS4While we’re waiting for the Playstation 4, Holman said that Sony game developers are realizing that the PS3 has a lot more processing headroom than they initially anticipated and that this will result in the development of new gaming capabilities. A lot of this processing power will be harnessed by releasing firmware upgrades with new features which will both help developers with their development and gamers with media centre capabilities for those that are interested. You’re already able to install different operating systems on the Playstation 3 as you can read in a previous newspost and although it’s not really working that well, we’re sure that this will be improved over time.

By the time the PS3 will be launched in PAL territories like Europe and Australia, the PS3 will undergo a firmware upgrade but it’s unknown what kind of changes will be made or features added . Perhaps we’ll be able to play the downloaded PSone games on the console instead of beaming them to a PSP. He also said that at least 20 new games will be available on top of the US launch titles.

The rest of the article is mainly consists of some not so very interesting and slightly biased opinions.

In the ongoing DVD format war, it also gives a huge boost to Sony’s push to make the Blu-ray Disc the dominant standard for high-definition DVD players and movie titles (over rival HD-DVD), since the PS3 becomes, for now, the least expensive Blu-ray player on the market. At today’s briefing I was shown the difference between Blu Ray on the PS3 and the traditional DVD playback. The difference was dramatic with clearer and sharper images.

The Xbox 360 has a full year’s head start on the PS3 and Wii, which means it has more third-generation games available for it, and Microsoft has recently added new bells and whistles like an optional HD-DVD player and full-length movie and TV downloads in high-definition. However indications are that it is not hitting its sales targets in the USA and this could be a problem as both Sony and Nintendo roll out competitive products.

The Wii can’t match the PS3 or the Xbox 360 in terms of realistic graphics or movie playback, but it is significantly cheaper $395 in Australia. It also has its own set of innovative technologies and will appeal to families whose idea of fun does not necessarily entail eviscerating alien monsters.

You shouldn’t worry too much about the title of this article, the Playstation 3 will have a lot of good games coming out, even after the release of the Playstation 4. We’re seeing this right now with the Playstation 2 which has still quite a bunch of games coming in contrary to the Xbox which has been completely dropped by Microsoft.

Thanks to Vasu for pointing us towards this news on our forum.

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92 comments on 'Playstation 4 not coming before 2010'

Comment by BeffardoBastardo on 2006-12-06 18:35:17

In my opinion ,the Playstation 4 should come out well before 2010.
This for the following reasons:

1)It should be conceived as “what the playstation 3 should have but it doesn’t have” such as a Holographic Versatile Disk drive ,2 Giga XDR RAM,1 Giga GDDR3 VRAM

2)6 Cell Processors (Ver 2.0 without the glitches and shortcomes as in the current version) Dedicated to Specific Tasks and 6 othe cell processors as controll and backup (or dedicated to power demanding app) alternatively 6 other more but wired and integrated in a similar way (so total of 18 processors) as the 3 processors in the x box 360.Thus a decision on the overall cost should be taken

3)Region Free games and Programs as well as support and capability to access any Cd format ,DVD format and BlueRay Hd-Dvd format.Also full compatibility to Linux OS.

4)Price then could be on the 400 $ 350 E Range initially with a drop eventually of 20/30 % on the 2nd or 3rd year of launch.Even the time frame could be revised considering a European Launch scheduled at March 2007 ,Christmas time 2007 or mid 2008 could be possible.

5)Most important ,A research of capable media partners should be sought to provide :1) Capability to play all Nintendo Games,2)Majority of ,circa 80 % of, Pc Titles ,possibly using a program similar to Direct X or DirectX/Ps Converter, 3)Movies with a editable content and/or with hidden sceenes and Takes so to give chance to the viewer to modify or choose preferred Storyline.

This to take 80-90 % of the market ,and at least 40-50 of the P.C. market/Home Entertaiment Niche

O.K. some suggestions maybe are over the line but I’m interested to Know what is possible and what are the visible or perceivable shortfalls of the Ps3 as of today.

Comment by wallers on 2009-12-05 14:02:19

im sure the ps4 will come out sooner then expected
sony will need some way of getting more money out of people what money they have they will need more
so im sure they will bring it sooner then they say

Comment by JesusDoveAnSUV on 2006-12-06 21:49:17

wow dude, you are either retarded or have no concept of the cost of modern technologies.

Comment by BeffardoBastardo on 2006-12-07 10:03:54

Please don’t offend anyone with your vugar comment and don’t give the adjective “retarded” on a subject especially if you don’t motivate your statement.This especially if you don’t give a cost breakdown of my proposed specs. or of what you define “modern tecnologies”.

Comment by JesusDoveAnSUV on 2006-12-07 14:48:09

look at point 1 & 2 of your post, you seriously expect that foe the price range you wanted. Its sounds like you just put all the stuff that would be cool in a console together and then decided the price by what you deem as an acceptable amount to play.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-06-04 10:56:02

Stop being retarded.

Comment by Lone Goat on 2007-10-09 14:26:05

damn… u didn’t just say that!

Comment by DJJedi on 2007-11-18 16:34:04

BeffardoBastardo, you are retarded.

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Comment by Playstation 3 on 2006-12-07 11:28:50

Playstation 4 would probably be out in 2011 or 2012 because sony is making no return on there current Playstation 3 investment. Every Playstation 3 sold SOny is losing about $307 per unit.

Many game developers are not even making as many games for Playstation 3 because of the vast costs as well as they do not have enough user base considering that PS3 Games will only be Profitable at 500,000 Units Sold.

Comment by Future on 2006-12-07 11:38:02

Citing average development costs per title at $8.6 million, Namco Bandai president Takeo Takasu has said that the company must sell at least 500,000 copies of every PlayStation 3 game in order to make a profit quote.

“We have to sell at least 500,000 copies per title worldwide to make a profit on PlayStation 3 games,” said Takasu.

Lets not forget that Ken Kutaragi, grandpappy of the PlayStation recently got fired from his postilion to be replaced by Kaz Hirai.

The future of Playstation as whole looks dim. Microsoft the monopolist will eventually end up ruling the video gaming business just like they done the desktop business.

Comment by BeffardoBastardo on 2006-12-07 17:32:06

Whoa ,thanks for your comments and the numbers given

Thus on a second thought,706 $ (307 $ undercost value + 399 retail price) as industrial cost or breakeven cost of a ps3 considering what there is inside and analogous performances in a pc seem high.probably the Real industrial cost for the machine would be around the 600-650$ range (still comparing to what you can buy with the same amount of $ in the pc world and have similar performances)

even the breakeven values given to software wold seem a little skewed to the overconservative side (that 17.2 $ for a game that goes out at retail at 60$ and considering a markup of retail of 100%,or less for software but still considering that retail takes the game at say 45$ ,the remaining 28 $ (45-17.2 for development cost) would sum packaging,medium (how much a virgin blue-ray disk may cost?)and other expenses.Therefore to me it would seem that or the estimate of 8.6 million $ for a game is a little too high (what the heck,you can produce a woody allen movie with that amount of money) or 500,000 copies per title ,too pessimistic (I would rather say 100,000-200,000 copies per title so that a producer takes in consideration the project.

Comment by halo on 2006-12-08 15:56:47

there probly wont be a ps4

Comment by beffardobastardo on 2006-12-28 15:39:43

probably tru (say 65% there won’t be/45% there will be) depends if they achieve 55 million sales

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Comment by penis mcleod on 2007-04-30 00:43:28

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Comment by Nelson on 2009-02-08 13:58:01

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Comment by Seth on 2007-06-01 02:56:02

The PS4 will be a marvel of technology once it’s released. Some possibilities are as follows:

1. The PS4’s Processor could be an Intel Processor, making it more Windows friendly and blowing Microsoft’s and Nintendo’s processor ability out the window. Like it isn’t all ready?

2. The online capabilities of the PS4 will improve,competing highly against Microsoft’s XBOX Live.

3. The interactive revolution of gaming will also be improved on the PS4. Come on, is SIXAXIS in any comparison to Nintendo Wii’s?

4. The Playsation 4 HOPEFULLY will become smaller, so no rumors of “My house burnt down because of the Playstation 3″ will ever happen again.

These new concepts of the Playstation 4 will hopefully bring down the price, because forking over $600 was well worth it, but it also left a huge hole in my wallet.

Comment by person on 2007-07-02 00:38:42

ummm, no offense, but if you put windows on a ps(anything), i think it might explode. pretty much the biggest thing the ps3 could work on would be ram. i mean, we’ve got the “most powerful gaming system” yet it has 265megs of ram…. that makes perfect sense. the xmb looks beautiful, but lacks many things that a computer freak would love to have. the availability of being able to install another OS on any gaming system is a big attraction. the ps3 cn run fedora core 5, but it is quite slow and glitchy with only 265megs of ram to run it on. it might run fine if the video card didnt share the ram. if it had its own memory then the other os should run fine. i guess im a little off topic though… ill vote a hell yes for ps4

Comment by who cares on 2007-07-07 20:07:50

wot da fuk u all talkin bout man u guys r fukin geeks. i just wanted 2 no wen ps4 was comin out an u all chattin bout da cost and rates and persentaes. wtf

Comment by Scott on 2007-07-08 17:18:39

you honestly think they would announce the PS4 whilst the PS3 is still a commercial failure!?!

Oh… And learn to spell properly mate

Comment by Lone Goat on 2007-10-09 14:28:50

WTF scott, u could read that!!!

Comment by KidsnearwaterX on 2007-12-15 21:32:57

Whoah, Gangster on the loose. To be fair, Not one of us are geeks, we’re all just smarter at the computer technology side of life and! I didnt see anything relating to “Geek” in any of the comments above.

Comment by alex on 2007-10-09 09:14:20

come on. people dont have the money to buy new systems every year. let us have 5 years at least or 10

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Comment by jonny11223 on 2007-11-08 16:42:03

errr about microsoft have owned the desktop buisness. apple have and still remains to be used and sold more than microsoft and the 1st computer in the world was an apple. why do u fink their technology is far more advanced plus u dnt have all these ga vista fings and dn have to pay 200-500 just 2 update it

Comment by scott on 2007-11-09 15:46:42

First computer in the world was made by IBM which was around before MS and Apple mate. If you are going to state facts, please get them right!

(If i am right in thinking, wasn’t the ehad of apple also working for IBM?)

Comment by bri on 2007-12-14 13:35:17

wtf is it wiv mac users… www.maddox.xmission.com. gop on that and read wot windows users can do that MAC users cant……the simple answer?

shut the fuk up.

u all thing the sun shines out its ass n like braggin bout it. its like xbox 360 users.. they brag tryna make it out to be better than the ps3 bcoz they are GUTTED that they wasted muni on that crok of shit wen the ps3 is well better. MAC users! i beg u… do ureself a favour n cum over to were u want to be.. MS users.

Comment by scott on 2007-11-09 15:47:20

Oh and if you upgrade a mac, you run into troubles… just like Leopard has caused

Comment by tom on 2007-11-11 17:39:02

Actually, the first electronic digital computer was the ENIAC in 1946 built by the University of Pennsylvania’s Moore School of Electrical Engineering for the US Army. The first PC (personal computer) was the MITS Altair 8800 designed in 1975 and offered as a kit through Popular Electonics magazine. Neither IBM nor Apple were the first at anything but capitalizing on the innovations of others.

Those are the real facts.

Comment by tom on 2007-11-11 17:55:05

In fact, IBM did not announce its first computer until 1972 (over 20 years after ENIAC)and Apple was not even founded until 1976 (a full year after the Altair was available).

Comment by jayce on 2007-11-14 04:57:06

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Comment by Camfrogneo on 2007-11-20 02:13:32

Ok guys the first thing is the ps4 is gonna take long time to come out, because the blu ray technologies have to be more expand in all the world like the VHS format and DVD format so now is time for blu ray format, may be can be like beffardo bastardo said, may the ps4 can read other format of the video games but to do that have to wait long time… gretings to every one.

Comment by PS4? on 2007-12-02 12:02:11

If you type in playstation 4 on google then some pictures should come up of the machine, in my opinion it looks VERY similar to the ps3. I havn’t even got a ps3 yet, but by the time i’ve got one then in a couple of years i will probably be told to get a playstation 4. Don’t get me wrong, i’ll probably get it anyway, but i read another artical saying that sony are ALREADY planning a playstion 5 and 6! :P

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Comment by Masticina Akicta on 2007-12-12 09:51:12

Crazy ones here…
There are reasons why consoles can do with limited amount of memory, because games are made so that they fit the one profile just perfect. No need to support 3 different types of videocards thus drivers, no 5 underlaying OS layers. Instead there is one configuration and thus you don’t require 2Gigabyte of memory.

Oh about about the playstation 3, it uses quite expensive memory. XDR to be precise and why? Because it has to be able to keep the SPU’s fed! Now those are hungry beasts and seemingly only XDR has enough bandwidth at acceptable timings to feed them.

Comment by come on on 2007-12-21 04:44:42

i dont know as much about computers as the rest of you but i do know that i just spent 400$ on ps3… they cant be releasing a ps4 already, i dont have the money for that… come on

Comment by azuze on 2008-01-06 11:55:09

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Comment by Ps4. on 2008-01-14 01:21:04

All of you guise are geeks that are talking about the price. The ps4 is going to take clear see through cds. Also the ps4 will beagle to open your fridgerator. The price is going to be they same price as the ps3. And they say that it is going to look like the ps3.

Comment by yomama on 2008-03-24 01:15:21

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Comment by edwin on 2008-07-23 20:17:02

how dare you talking bad to the author aert?

Comment by yomama on 2008-03-24 01:16:36

it should cost $10 or something, then i will have 40 of them for the price of 1 ps3
fuckeeeeerrrrrrrs

Comment by GingerAle on 2008-05-08 23:08:23

The Wii is better than the 360
The 360 is better than the PS3
The PS3 is worse than shit

Comment by Theodore on 2008-05-14 19:51:44

every last one of yall need to shut the fuck up because yet you complaine but you was one of thoese psople in line to buy one wii is not a reallike game its reallywas made for you to play with your hole family not to compete xbox 360 doesn’t stand up to the standerts they said it would a-lot of people said it crashed when they first got it playstation 3 no real fuckin complant’s besides its ram not that fast so what you impatent mother fukers get over he graphics are exellent and you can play all the playstation 2 games on it unlike the xbox 360 you have to get upgrade to do that so whats the point do any of you get paid to do any of the talking and aruging right so chill the hell out shit yall fuckin annoying and your right your not geeks your freaks fuckin game freaks

Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-07-24 09:57:59

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Comment by Elz on 2008-05-19 14:57:12

I don’t have the money to buy a PS4 and I think there is no point, in making things exclusive because once again - its to EXPENSIVE! All I want to do is play the game and get on with it!

Comment by edwin on 2008-07-23 20:13:45

for those who messin around with playstation 4:
stop talking bad!!!!!!!!!!you just being a idiot.

Comment by tony on 2008-07-24 11:38:30

ps3 aint got games

Comment by kryptonite on 2008-08-11 00:36:48

HAHAHAHAHA you all thought the ps3 wouldnt last this long but it has some 150 exclusives coming out soon and its been stated that its potential is so great in fact that a ps4 before 2010 is out of the question now. you may want an xbox to come out by then to match the ps3 hardware wise but it just goes to show how pessamistic all you losers were. ps3 is going for 10 years just like the ps2 easily and it outsold xbox last year and this year is showing the same trend

Comment by bob on 2008-08-11 07:13:40

i don’t see how Sony selling ps3s is going to help you and why you even care, it has 150 exclusives but you aint going to buy all them, and i don’t get how you can call anyone a loser.

Comment by Elz on 2008-08-11 18:37:40

Kyrptonite don’t call us all losers BECAUSE SOME OF US AREN’T! you are! mwahahahaha! joking

Comment by Elz on 2008-08-11 18:39:26

no ones a loser but the one who calls others it…

made it up mysef. yes you can’t buy them all you’d be rich

Comment by Katan13 on 2008-08-13 11:34:43

I don’t own a ps3, just an xbox 360. But i think the ps3 should be p*ssing all over the competition, except the wii, thats not really in the same league as such. But the ps3 is performing no where near as expected. It is in Japan, but thats about it. And lets be honest, japan is a wee little island and i’m sure sony like, own japan or something. Sony isle, ah what a nice place. You’ll find such tourist attractions as walkman theme park and bravia land, where everything is uber expensive, but pretty reliable. Until they release a much shinier, thinner version which of course you’ll want.

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Comment by josh on 2009-02-09 22:03:44

im 13 i don’t have the money to buy a new fukkin console every year it should be about 3 to 4 years for new console to come out becuz of my reason above AND there will be better games in 3 to 4 years not so many good games in 1 year

Comment by Mershon on 2009-04-28 18:39:56

Nintendo, Apple, and Sony are all on the same page. A clear hint would be that solid snake from metal gear solid, started out on nintendo then to ps1 and ps2, then back to the wii with super smash bros., and then back to ps3. Apple and Sony originally planned on a mobile gaming device similar to the iPhone. Microsoft will soon die!!!! Mac rules!!!

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Comment by Zane on 2009-12-21 02:12:32

its not even been 4 years yet, and already talk on a new game system, my question is why bother? if a game system going to be replaced in 5 years or less in this case 4, then whats the point, most game systems are replace in a 6-10 year time frame, but hey if you have lots of time and money to blow I say have at it, but coming from a gamer thats been playing games since the time of the nes, I just think it’s silly, I mean it took 2 years for the game developers to make any good games for ps3, and it has only been till recently that the prices fail, I mean would it be worth getting this game system if you knew ps5 would replace it in 3 to 4 years, making the money you spend on your ps4 seem like nothing almost.

How would you feel spending 1000 for something and then few years go by and its only worth 100, I rest my case. Sides games are going to be like 70+, I mean ps3 been a nightmare every new game that comes out have to wait almost year or more for it to go down, back when the playstation and playstation 2 come out such prices was only for the really really good games, or rare games, but not every game that came out regardless if it was good or crappy like they do now.

All I’m saying is sure it be nice to have a new high tech system but its just to soon.

The funny thing is blueray hasn’t been out that long, I just find it funny knowing such things are around 10+ years before anyone trys to replace them, look at cds, look at mp3s, dvd’s, need I say more, I’m all for change but this is a bit fast and much.

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Comment by jordan on 2010-05-21 01:36:59

im sick of pepole saying the xbox 360 is better then the PS3 so i want the PS4 to come out as soon as possible so it makes the XBOX 360 look like junk and the XBOX 720.Playstatoin is going to go down the drain if they dont improve with something amazing such as the PS4.

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